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Trawling the web the opposite day, I noticed an article proclaiming Australia’s most cost-effective electrical car is a 10-year-old Mitsubishi i-MiEV. The headline struck me specifically – as a result of I purchased it.
Truly, I purchased the sister automotive of this i-MiEV from the identical supplier: 25,000 km on the clock for a considerably ludicrous seventeen grand plus rego.
The i-MiEV is diminutive sufficient that I can drive it by means of simply one of many double gates at house, and naturally, similar to the unique Mini, it makes every part else within the automotive park appear to be a completely pointless behemoth. Particularly the horribly compromised, hopelessly heavy, twin cab 4WD grocery getters.
It’s not simply the simple parking, word the scale of the tyres.
I might wax on with the numbers motoring geeks love: 180 Nm of torque could be a bit summary, however let’s simply sum that up as ‘enjoyable’ in an electrical automotive barely weighing a ton.
If you happen to mash the accelerator to the ground, the iMiev motor will ship a peak output of 47 kilowatts.
In automotive phrases, that’s fairly modest. A Nissan Navara pictured above has 3 times the ability. A first-rate mover has 10 instances as a lot energy, with torque that will twist the iMiev like a damp tea towel.
Now examine that to a median family. The electrical energy service from the road delivers 230v x 63amps = 14.5 kilowatts. Your common 6.6 kW solar energy system on the roof will, at greatest, ship 5 kilowatts.
Dwelling batteries begin at about 6.5 kilowatt hours, the Tesla Powerwall is round 13 kilowatt hours and a typical off-grid home wants two or 3 times extra.
The “gas tank” within the iMiev is a battery with 16 kilowatt hours capability. Once more, it’s fairly modest in comparison with different electrical automobiles akin to a brand new Nissan Leaf with 60 kilowatt hours; or a flagship mannequin Tesla with 100 kilowatt hours.
Whenever you plug an electrical automotive in with a 7.5 kilowatt EV charger, it is going to be a big demand on the general capability of your grid connection. Not like cooking eggs or making toast, charging goes on for hours on finish. For this reason it’s necessary, when you think about solar energy sooner or later, to set up as a lot as you may.
Evaluating to the Navara, a tough calculation places 70 litres of diesel at 767 kWh, however burning it in your Navara at 20% effectivity solely yields 153 kWh. However at the least we don’t have to purchase kilowatt hours for EVs from extremist theocracies abroad.
Like each area of interest curiosity there may be in fact a social media following. And in lots of circumstances, they’re a priceless useful resource. When the 2 iMievs popped up I jumped on one, as a result of the final couple of those rockets that surfaced in Adelaide went pretty rapidly for $12-14 grand.
By way of the identical group, I winced as I found the EVs got here from a authorities public sale for a bit over $10 grand every. At that worth, you might promote dozens.
For $10,200 this was a discount.
With greater than a passing curiosity in issues automotive, I’m used to traditional vehicles that go up in worth. Virtually something with a chrome bumper instructions a premium lately (besides a Galant Wagon).
So, whilst you can rationalise the Mitsubishi iMiev as a traditional as a result of they’re the primary mass-produced EV of the trendy period, they’re equally simply unknown and unloved used vehicles which can be defying gravity by appreciatingas a result of they’re electrical.
Like many iMievs owned by public authorities or early adopters, these two have led a reasonably leisurely life. However we’d greatest depart the jokes about sheltered workshops alone as I wouldn’t wish to throw shade on the iMiev. The supplier enthused concerning the complete service historical past, and I burst his bubble a bit by observing they will need to have checked the lights and wipers annually. Because it seems, they didn’t test the tyres as a result of I needed to pump them up myself.
Tyre stress issues. If you happen to’re unsure, pump them up as a result of if you happen to make an error, extra is healthier than much less.
When the i-MiEV was launched, I’m instructed you might solely lease them. In 2010 that was $1,740 a month over a three-year time period. Apparently the federal government inspector who checked my car ID final week remembered they’d some shopped round just a few departments, however he wasn’t allowed to have an i-MiEV.
This can be a working example as to why we should always retain public possession of utilities. I might by no means afford the $62,000 lease or $48,000 new-car-price, however authorities fleet shopping for energy can put new EV expertise into the second-hand marketplace for regular individuals to purchase.
Now demand is rising, individuals are importing EVs privately. Organisations akin to The Good Automobile Co. have been bringing within the ever-popular Nissan Leaf from Japan, whereas among the “efficiency” automotive importers are glad to co-ordinate different electrical automobiles such because the iMiev’s boxier brother, the Minicab van. The final a type of I noticed on the market right here was wrapped in pink vinyl and commanding $20 grand… however at the least you might sleep inside it, not like a twin cab ute.
See exhibit A :
You may purchase an iMiev van for every day of the week and nonetheless have sufficient for a home deposit… or you might have this backyard shed with diamond sew seats and no mattress.
I haven’t been washing the i-MiEV twice every week like my Dad does when he will get a brand new automotive, however there’s most likely sufficient enthusiasm to maintain you posted on what it’s prefer to stay with a “classic” electrical automotive. To this point, it’s confirmed its price and if the boss will give me the time without work, I’ll load the generator on board and see simply how far it goes earlier than I’ve to make my very own petrol powered electrical automotive meme.
I lament I missed out on the primary EV I actually needed. We predict it’s a 1906 Baker electrical and $35,000 AUD would virtually have purchased it, plus freight and taxes. I might have beloved to see how this goes as a restored automotive. Nonetheless, I might swap the ~150 kg lead acid battery for contemporary chemistry to see how a lot distinction that makes to its vary.
Baker Electrical c.1906 20 volt motor included. On a US web site for $20k USD. Not a lot to work with? Truly, there wasn’t a lot within the first place. The motor is in that blue tub.
These Edwardian-era electrics have been fairly well-liked however hamstrung by the dearth of electrical energy outdoors the town. It appears charging infrastructure has at all times been a difficulty, simply as water availability restricted the vary of steam vehicles.
The early days of infernal combustion engines, although plagued with unreliable ignitions and mechanical failure, have been made sensible by gas transported in four-gallon tins packed in pairs in a timber field, and hauled by horses to your nearest chemist store or blacksmith.
An actual horseless carriage. Iimage: Invoice Lillie
For now, you can also have a 2011 Mitsubishi i-MiEV priced at $17,990 drive-away with only a tad over 32,000km on the clock. Listed in late November, John Raffaele is standing fairly agency on his worth as a result of some mug already paid a lot the identical for a white one he had. Sorry.
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As a baby, Anthony marvelled at his Solarex toy helicopter made with shards of smashed photo voltaic cells. With some training, he grew to become a jack of all trades & grasp of a number of, certified contractor, builder, roofer, auto and licenced electrician, veteran automotive restorer & Dad. After 14+ years of lugging, lifting, plumbing and fixing, wiring, dialling and evangelising for every part photo voltaic power-related, on-grid and off, he is bought just a few yarns to share.
Preserve it coming Anthony, a lot admire your analysis and perception.
I’m looking for a hybrid (so I don’t have to hold a spare generator in addition to a spare tyre to get from Northam to Bridgetown (each in WA)).
One thing that may be tailored if not already V2H as I’ve the 6k66W PVA and 5kW 3ph hybrid inverter – battery prepared.
Was focussing on the Nissan Leaf2 however gone off the concept of all electrical.
Simply out of curiosity, what’s the vitality equal for my 90L autogas tank on my 80 collection GXL wagon in kWh ?
With the brand new FBT laws (novated lease/wage sacrifice) you might have a Tesla Mannequin Y for round $440 a fortnight (over 5 years)… loads of vary and Tesla chargers to get you round WA. Try TOCWA (Tesla House owners Membership WA) on fb.
Preserve it coming Anthony, a lot admire your analysis and perception.
I’m looking for a hybrid (so I don’t have to hold a spare generator in addition to a spare tyre to get from Northam to Bridgetown (each in WA)).
One thing that may be tailored if not already V2H as I’ve gone off the concept of all electrical.
Simply out of curiosity, what’s the vitality equal for my 90L autogas tank on my 80 collection GXL wagon in kWh ?
Hello, fortunate you and your imev. I additionally went down an identical path however by no means completed. I used to be a ten yr previous Leaf. Costs have been ~15k with a spread of 50-100 kms. The batteries have been considerably used or worn, mileage ~50km-100km. Not lots of alternative although. Unique vary was about 180 kms on a couple of 20kWhr battery pack. Alternative value with real components and supplier labour ~$12,000. Clearly a 30-60kWhr battery pack could be higher. I noticed a youtube video of a 60kWhr battery pack improve, new mounts wanted and alternative of rear springs wanted. All good to know. However a no deal for me at the moment.
In April I imported a 2016 30kWh Leaf Aero (top quality with bodykit and so forth) for $20k on the street. 24kWh Leafs have been $15k on the time, so the additional $5k was a lot better worth.
I checked out 2nd hand MiEV’s too, however even at $12k they weren’t price it for simply 80km of vary. My Leaf get’s about 170km.
I believe the creator of this text spent WAY an excessive amount of to be trustworthy.
So a ten yr previous ev, you forgot to say the battery alternative prices or vary degradation on this
Hello Ian,
Vary is someplace between 50% and 75% relying on who’s mileage commonplace you imagine was right when it was new. In the true world it does what I would like it to and as I’ve linked within the authentic article, battery upgrades are $13k and supply round double the unique efficiency. I really assume that EVs being up to date with a brand new battery, in the identical approach that fanatics prefer to transplant traditional vehicles with trendy gas injected engines, (and electrical energy vegetation now) makes completely good sense when it comes to saving invested vitality and enhancing environmental outcomes.
we’re driving one now since 2017. it has all the trendy options of an electrical automotive, tire stress sensors, electrical home windows, AC.
there was a collection made in japan (proper hand drive) outfitted with litium titanate batteries (LTO) from toshiba. attempt to import these, they go eternally. the one factor that wants greasing is the cable working the ahead/reverse. I’ve two cost cables, the unique charging at 7A, and one from aliespress charging at 14A, so I can select relying on the climate en my extra solar energy.
I agree that every one public providers needs to be in authorities palms, and run for the good thing about the residents, not bought into non-public palms to earn money for shareholders.
In any other case, utility payments will at all times stay the very best potential that demand will permit. There’s little competitors between utilities, so solely in authorities palms can truthful costs be maintained.
Governments promote property which can be pure monopolies and it’s simply switch of stated monopoly.
Providers in authorities palms appears to run like in home monopolies. If you happen to attempt to herald non-public sector managers and improve productiveness you get every kind of push again.
If you concentrate on roof prime photo voltaic. Mainly house homeowners convey the funding (land, roof mount, buy the system) and photo voltaic into the grid is principally free (paid feed in however zero funding so any revenue is very large margin). Dwelling batteries are too costly however grid stage storage is sensible as there may be arbitrage revenue.
Possibly Dan in Victoria could be onto one thing however we’ll see.
Can we please cease this 230V nonsense; it’s 240V, because it at all times was.
‘230V’ was only a paper ruse to placate EU mandarins in Brussels.
If you happen to don’t imagine, go and measure it!
Euan MacKenzie
Australia is transferring to 230V. As a result of we use transformers (as an alternative of Inverter expertise as utilized in Europe), many properties nonetheless present 240v (which is in spec for 230v higher restrict). What this does is cut back the inverter voltage overhead which causes extra dropouts for inverters.
Anthony, re the Imiev, ours has 120000Km+. Vary now abt 80Km, however that is nation driving. Entrance tyres are usually not straightforward to seek out, & bcos ours is used on nation roads, our rims have suffered a beating.
One factor to observe is the plastic undertray (we made an Aluminium one). Whether it is lacking, the AC compressor electronics get water ingress. Mine is on the second failure (I repair it myself). This time I made a brand new lid with Surfboard Cortex ´valves´, that permit the vapour to flee (hopefully!). If the undertray is lacking or broken, the spray reaches the compressor (which is under the 12v battery). The compressor runs on the HIgh voltage of the primary battery (so take away the hyperlink below the LH seat earlier than any investigation tried). Additionally, hold the tyre pressures excessive (38>40psi).
The Imievs are a tiny rocket! I had a commodore virtually lose it attempting to comply with me by means of some windies. An area Dr used to say he took his Dwelling-built Lotus 7 copy through the identical street @ 75Kph: by no means instructed him the imiev did the identical!
There may be lots of data on repairing & operating the Imiev on the internet.
AC charging most is 15A (They may totally cost in a single day, however watch the plugs: they get heat! If plugged in to a vertical (wall) pp, help the cable so no stress is on the plug. Finest have an industrial 15A socket with the screw ring, in case you are operating a brand new cct.
There have been V2G inverters avail in Japan. Runs off the Chademo. By no means capable of supply one.
Take pleasure in!
Hello Doug,
Glad to listen to you’re having run with the iMiev and thanks for the tech recommendation. There may be in fact just a few boards & social media websites however if you happen to’re scratching for tyres I do know a bloke with answer that entails some wheels from a Yaris. I’ll spherical up the small print but it surely entails cheaper and wider tyres. I’m positive the automotive handles a lot better in consequence.
you’ll want to hold the slender entrance tyres. The facility steering is not going to tolerate wider tyres. Additionally wider tyres=extra drag, so much less vary!
I’m some rims from the spacesaver wheels, & get the centres modified. The broader fronts are usually not wanted: this stuff deal with properly anyway!
The rears might be one thing like early MX5 rims. Stud spacing is straightforward. Slender entrance alloys arduous.
regards, Doug
Critically solely a 75 klm vary and with used batteries ? That wouldn’t even get me to work and again. And if you’d like the i-Miev battery improve I discover it’s round $13K – no marvel you glossed over the fee half !
Wake me up once more in 10 years when individuals are really getting worth for cash in EV purchases. Kermit might need to be completely reen however doesn’t imply I do !
…”inexperienced”…rattling frogs in my keyboard…
I believe my 2016 30kWh Leaf Aero for $20k on the street right here was respectable worth. 170km vary. High spec.
The cheaper hatch-backs are coming early 2023 although…. MG4 ($40k), BYD Dolphin ($40k), Cupra Born ($60k…. not so low cost, however a giant 77kWh battery)
Spot on , When EV begin to get minimal of 600km vary will Australians begin to consider shopping for . I’ll by no means purchase one as once I drive to Melbourne {from Sydney ] do I not wish to sit round for an hour for recharge . For all these saying sure however cease revive survive , We now have 2 drivers , so we swap over after 5 minutes of refuelling with regular petrol and proceed on our journey
I perceive wanting a 600 km vary EV in your scenario, however I’ll point out the Hyundai Ioniq 5 can get 100 km vary in 5 minutes of charging. Whereas having to spend maybe 20 minutes charging isn’t ideally suited when you think about the financial savings in gas prices it might be properly worthwhile.
However we’ll want extra ultra-rapid chargers. I undoubtedly advocate they’re obtainable in the proper areas for you.
” When EV begin to get minimal of 600km vary will Australians begin to consider shopping for”
So… nobody in Australia has considered shopping for a Nissan Leaf…?
Dale , I appeared up. Nissan .com.au Leaf 270km vary or dearer mannequin 385km vary
I’ve completely no concept why you assume this can be a significant response to my query.
Adam – there’ll at all times be edge circumstances the place EVs are usually not applicable however please don’t assume that your specific situation represents “Australians”. The info are that 95% of Aussies don’t want 600kms of vary (and BTW there are already EVs that fill that area of interest – they simply value mo’ cash) – on common we drive about 35kms a day or 255kms every week, so most EVs will comfortably cowl that with a weekly cost. My Mannequin 3 RWD will do 400kms plus on the freeway, so most Aussies could be completely glad to take a brief break after 4 hours of driving. Most would want to.
So do they work for everybody? No. You’ll be able to’t realistically tow a giant caravan with an EV (not that they lack the power- simply the vary). If charging at house will not be potential then proudly owning an EV goes to require a really organised strategy. If you happen to usually commute very lengthy distances (ie Sydney to Melb) then an EV won’t be for you (relies upon how common). If you happen to love the sound of a V8 and don’t thoughts the price of petrol, properly an EV won’t be for you. That’s high-quality. However we actually don’t want some arbitrary determine of 600kms – it’s possible you’ll do, I don’t.
Hello Reg,
To this point this factor is doing precisely what I would like it to and I haven’t examined it’s most vary but. My diesel ute makes use of round $12.80 for a 67km weekly journey to see household, 9kWh of electrical energy is simply $3.15, so I’m calling that good worth. As for the battery improve, I don’t want one but. Having labored in an engine store machining components to tolerances below .001″ I’m properly conscious that reconditioning an engine is not any small funding. It took me hours of hand porting of cylinder heads and much more than $13k to double the ‘orsepower of my challenge automotive, and within the course of I’ve most likely halved the gas mileage.
I really assume that EVs being up to date with a brand new battery, in the identical approach that fanatics prefer to transplant traditional vehicles with trendy gas injected engines, makes completely good sense when it comes to saving invested vitality and enhancing environmental outcomes.
Contemplating the typical Australian commute is below 20km you’ll be an outlier in statistical and geographical phrases if you happen to can’t make a return journey on 75km vary. You probably have a typical 10amp energy level obtainable at your work then the iMiev would probably be match, however to be trustworthy I’ve performed lengthy each day commutes and I discover spending greater than two hours per day within the automotive isn’t only a waste of tyres, it’s a waste of your life. Your mileage might differ in fact.
I’ve the very same Imiev and even the identical color.
I labored at Mitsubishi head workplace after we have been leasing them since we discovered we couldn’t promote them for $65k for 4 seater automotive. Cautious with the tyres as once I changed them, I misplaced 20km from my vary. And I solely had 100km to begin with!
The Holden volt is one other cheaper various for inside metropolis driving with 50km or so of vary and petrol generator on board if you’ll want to go additional if not you simply use the battery and it expenses from a 10amp plug. However like your Mitsubishi they’re restricted numbers and holding good worth.
Nicely performed on the thrilling buy. We bought comparable age/km somewhat cheaper about 6 months in the past, and have have performed 5500km in it. Our efficient vary is extra like 70km, however 2 days commuting is ok. There are free charging factors near my work, in any other case I cost at house principally when solar is shining on our PV. We’ll look into upgrading the battery most likely earlier than winter subsequent yr (the chilly has extra impact than the warmth for us). Whereas not low cost, Im glad to take a position on this nice automotive, its comfy and enjoyable to drive.
Thanks Matt,
It does appear to be factor. Air-con works properly, even the seat is fairly comfy in commonplace trim. Simply wants extra cup holders!
To all of the EV doubters, just lately we travelled Noth coast, NSW to Dubbo through Sydney & return. abt 1000Km every approach. Full cost after we left house (400Km+ at hwy speeds in our 64Kw Kona) First cost Port Macq (50Min cost), then Karuah (30Min), then Sydney. Charged at Olympic Pk (1Hr) late at evening (busy charger!) Then Lithgow (45Min), then Dubbo (1Hr+), Lithgow, Sydney, Karuah,
Port Macq, Coffs, then house. We discover the 750Km journey to Sydney is about an hour longer than with our previous Dino automotive. MUCH cheaper. We do have to cease anyway for rests & meals. Normally we plan our journey round meals, rests, & studying books. We aren’t in a rush. I normally sit on 100>105 on the Hwy. 110 makes use of extra vitality!
Wouldn’t swap again to a Dino automotive! Go away them for the Fred Flintstones!
Blissful NY!
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